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Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
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This is something that has begun to bother me.
People assuming that just because you can draw and they can't that it's okay to ask for free artwork.
"can you design me one or two tattoos please?"
"Can you make me a portrait?"
"Can i have this drawing?"
"Can you take photographs at my wedding?"
"knit me a sweater"
So i would like to take the opportunity to inform those that are not into creating that if it was so simple to do, then yeah, it could be free i suppose -and sometimes it is!, but until then, if you are not VIP in our lives then most probably you should pay for the time, supplies and talent invested into this craft.
Thank you :P
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Sophie R.
LONDON,
United Kingdom
4384 posts
OG since: 01/21/2010
I can safely say I have never had this problem. Though I do draw a pretty great Yugi.
posted May 8, 2011
Maxi G.
MAINZ,
Germany
12 posts
OG since: 05/30/2010
I agree..
posted May 8, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
Fyeahartstudentowl hits waaaaay too close to home sometimes.
I gladly will make people things if I want to, but I have had some people try to take RIDICULOUS advantage. When I was in high school, this creepy substitute teacher tried soliciting us art students for drawings of these characters he was trying to turn into toys and then market (describing them with sometimes racist undertones didn't make the prospect any more attractive). Didn't want to pay us shit, but he thought it was acceptable to demand things of us through email even after we said no to it. And because he was in a position of authority, that just made it all the more douchebaggy.
posted May 8, 2011
Abby F.
United Kingdom
31 posts
Member since: 12/29/2010
i agree 100%, especially when they think their little drawing should take priority over university work.
Because i obviously have nothing better to do.
posted May 8, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
What a jackass, i'm pretty sure that he didn't get anything out of it mostly because of his lack of talent to negotiate and because of his dumb attitude...
posted May 9, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
prffft of course, it doesn't take you ANYTHING at all to do that one little drawing. I also find it funny how some people seem to think that they DESERVE a portrait, that they inspire.
"You should draw me"
Really? you should pay first.
posted May 9, 2011
Abby F.
United Kingdom
31 posts
Member since: 12/29/2010
Hahah, they obviously think they might become our muse or something. Wouldn't mind getting paid for a little drawing, but surprisingly, i'm not a printer who just spits out illustrations here and there
posted May 9, 2011
Betty A.
ENGLAND,
United Kingdom
98 posts
Member since: 04/16/2011
"Yes, my usual rate is £20 an hour as a professional" usually works x
posted May 9, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
i may have to begin to borrow that phrase.
posted May 10, 2011
Kgliese ..
23.8 LIGHT YEARS AWAY.,
Australia
163 posts
OG since: 11/08/2009
RIGHT ON.
posted May 10, 2011
Francisca P.
Portugal
154 posts
OG since: 07/15/2010
I like how people feel that drawing is something extremely trivial and five-minute-ish.
Today my class spent the day drawing outside and I heard comments such as 'Is this a class? They're just doodling...'
posted May 10, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
Once again, fyeahartstudentowl is insanely relevant:
Also, on the more general topic of this thread:
posted May 10, 2011
Francisca P.
Portugal
154 posts
OG since: 07/15/2010
I'm printing the first one and pasting it to the sketchbook my teacher checks.
posted May 10, 2011
Aya N.
TRIANGLE Y TRIANGLE,
Philippines
319 posts
OG since: 10/23/2009
AGREE! can totally relate to this @_@
posted May 11, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
lol, "just doodling"
When was the last time these people came up with a really really good doodle anyways?
When was the last time they doodled anything that's not their name surrounded by hearts and stars?!
posted May 11, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
oh no no no, you're an artist, you're made of money so you don't need any remuneration at all for your work :P
posted May 11, 2011
Robin H.
PLYMOUTH,
United Kingdom
3228 posts
OG since: 06/04/2010
this happened to me, literally just last night. This dude was like, could you draw my album art work (for his self released CD thing)? And he gave me these frighteningly detailed reference pictures of demons and angels and shit. I was clearly not going to get paid, he needed it soon, and it's exam/revision season. So I just said that I wasn't a good enough artist to do the job. Which is true, those refs were insane.
posted May 12, 2011
Ellis D.
S'TOON,
Canada
7606 posts
OG since: 12/13/2008
It depends on the person whose asking....I'll give art to friends of mine.....and as for actually doing a specific project for someone.....if they dope me up enough I might consider it.
DIY or die!
posted May 12, 2011
Ell P.
DEEP IN THE CORE,
United Kingdom
429 posts
OG since: 02/10/2010
LMFAO
love art student owwwl!!!
posted May 12, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
I have to say it's not frequently as funny as it was when it first started up, but it is so worth checking regularly for little gems. :D
oh snap
posted May 12, 2011
Hanan Q.
KINGTOPTAKEAWAY,
United Kingdom
52 posts
Member since: 09/14/2010
oh my days... I'm like everyone else here... this is literally my life in a freaking nutshell!!!! It's the one downside to having an abnormal ability at something.... My most annoying thing is if everyone is going out and getting drunk and we do 'pen night' where everyone wears blank tshirts and everyone draws/defaces each other... I spend 4/5ths of the night drawing on people and the rest of the time pretending I don't have a pen.... "Draw on me!!".."what do you want?".... "I don't know...something good"....
And then yeah, the rest of my normal life is just like everyone elses... just draw me something... yeah.. of course... ooorrr.... how about i just carry on living my life?? that cool with you??
great topic Karime... brilliant....
if anyones interested... i just some of my random drawings (THAT I DO FOR ME!!) on my tumblr... then the rest of my tumblr is my photography and clothing label...
kingtoptakeaway.tumblr.com
Anyone else want to show their art?? I'd like to see/follow back x x
posted May 12, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
You can look at other people's work and post your own in the many other topics already created in the Art section.
posted May 12, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
Yeahhh fuck giving you enough time to make something decent, planning? what's that?
you don't need it, you're an artissssst, you're free and wild and carelesssss.
I'm just glad your situation hasn't happened to me yet or else i'd actually do that rant i just typed :P
posted May 17, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
lol, "draw me something good..."
posted May 17, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
Sometimes i'd really wish i could take over Germany every time my teachers didn't like my work too :P
posted May 17, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
Like Ellis i would not mind giving away random sketches to friends. I'd ask them first before throwing them away.
But asking me to design a swallow and stars tattoo for somebody that just added me on DeviantArt is just asking for a block button.
posted May 17, 2011
Arielle ..
QC.,
Canada
19 posts
Member since: 10/22/2010
Hahahahaha, damn I can relate to this...
Asking for money makes me feel bad though.. I don't know, how the hell am I supposed to fix a specific price for my artwork? it makes me feel uncomfortable anyways.. :/
thumbs up @ art student owl bahaha
posted May 18, 2011
Nisrine B.
BELGIUM BUT LIVING IN COPENHAGEN,
Denmark
133 posts
OG since: 12/25/2009
I'm feeling bad too when I have to ask for money but when I don't I feel stupid for working for free and I'm just crying about the horrible life of small graphic designers ahaha!
posted May 22, 2011
Luca S.
MIDIAN,
Slovenia
275 posts
OG since: 03/06/2010
that's why I never show anything that I made, even though people keep asking me to show them sketches that I do at school ...and than they go:" Come on show it! I'm sure it's not ugly." ..I know it's not and that's why I'm not showing you because you will be demanding to draw something for you (and that sounded like I think that I'm the most amazing artist on the planet which I'm not but anyways)
posted May 22, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
Simple calculation... minimum wage x hours you've worked on the piece + cost of materials. If you want to start selling work, this gives you a reasonable, cheap beginning point, so that you're not screwing yourself over or pricing your work so high that no one will buy it. That is, if you want to sell it... and if you want to sell it, make sure you have really high-quality photos first.
Another option is making prints of your work and selling those, if you don't want to let go of the original. You can sell those for even cheaper than the original; several of my friends do this and it works out for a little extra cash on the side.
posted May 23, 2011
Bronwyn R.
Canada
23 posts
Member since: 09/12/2010
Some people think it's a compliment to ask you to do artwork for them, and I think that a lot of people aren't serious when they ask about it. Also, if you haven't sold a piece before you gotta do it for cheap to establish yourself as an artist or you won't have any money at all to pay for art supplies. I guess I don't see it as as big of an insult, mostly because people are pretty harmless as far as their insulting your talent goes. I find that not being secretive is the best, because then at least people aren't blown away when they see a piece for the first time; it will look more like you are a consistently good artist.
Anyways, my take.
posted Jun 25, 2011
Cering G.
Canada
2218 posts
OG since: 03/25/2010
Oh gosh... that photo = my entire elementary school life. :(
posted Jun 25, 2011
Ebony ..
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA/,
Ireland
2127 posts
OG since: 11/02/2008
People always ask me to draw on their skin.
posted Jun 27, 2011
Alex L.
DENVER,
United States
5 posts
Member since: 04/25/2011
preach it. I hate when people do that. HATE it. and it happens to me all the time.
posted Jun 29, 2011
LUNA L.
PANS LABYRINTH,
United Kingdom
204 posts
Member since: 11/02/2010
oh my, this happens all the time!
"OMG your dresses are so nice, make me a dress!, but in black...and i want like a shiny thing down the side..e.c.t"
yeah of course, its not like i have anything else to do with my enitre life...
posted Jun 29, 2011
LUNA L.
PANS LABYRINTH,
United Kingdom
204 posts
Member since: 11/02/2010
hahaahaaa! i always get that "Draw on me!!".."what do you want?".... "I don't know...something good"....
ive been getting that shit since primary school
posted Jun 29, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
The problem is that sometimes showing new or even old friends your sketchbook will lead to that oh wow, so original request:
"YOU SHOULD DRAW ME LOL!"
And then they look at you as if waiting for you to suddenly realize they are the muse you have always been waiting for. Oh gee golly gee!
posted Jul 2, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
Yes, its happened to me, heheh, several people have told me that they want artwork from me but when i tell them that prices would depend on the medium, size and level of skill required they slowly begin to blend into the background and eventually stop giving me information about their request. And its not as if i was charging them a lot because, hey, i want to do some work and i like to be nice to people.
But i guess they want a realistic portrait for a Hobby Lobby price.
posted Jul 2, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
They make a shopping list out of it hahah
posted Jul 2, 2011
Emilia D.
CHEAP SWEDISH MOVIES,
Latvia
67 posts
OG since: 01/02/2009
I don't mind taking photographs if people ask me to, i don't always have the time for it though.. also i usually tell them to edit the pic themselfs :D
posted Jul 4, 2011
Esikazemese _.
BUDAPEST,
Hungary
384 posts
OG since: 05/03/2009
So because you are an "artist" (except that noone heard of you before) you will ask for money from your friends for some drunk pictures on their bodies? That is pathetic.
All of you knew that being an artist is a fucking hard life, and yeah, random people come up like "draw to me", i don't even think it's serious. And if it's a friend, ask for the material you need, they will understand, unless you have shit friends.
It is a headache, cuz you will be asked for doing some shit job for money, and you will be asked for great works for free. Artist or bitch?
posted Jul 6, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
posted Jul 7, 2011
Steven S.
NEW JERSEY,
United States
14 posts
Member since: 05/03/2011
Right On
posted Jul 7, 2011
Esikazemese _.
BUDAPEST,
Hungary
384 posts
OG since: 05/03/2009
who is mad?
posted Jul 7, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
posted Jul 7, 2011
Esikazemese _.
BUDAPEST,
Hungary
384 posts
OG since: 05/03/2009
Ok, im not gonna argue with an idiot about my feelings :D
posted Jul 7, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
posted Jul 7, 2011
Esikazemese _.
BUDAPEST,
Hungary
384 posts
OG since: 05/03/2009
thanks, i know ^^
posted Jul 7, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
posted Jul 7, 2011
Esikazemese _.
BUDAPEST,
Hungary
384 posts
OG since: 05/03/2009
4.bp.blogspot.com/-nRr9UKiXVFc/ThVT8XB9VCI/AAAAAAAAC5g/_nmARO0WAHs/s1600/11.jpg
posted Jul 7, 2011
Ashley G.
CARDIFF,
United Kingdom
519 posts
OG since: 02/14/2009
I don't really mind. I think at this stage I just want my name out there. But I will have to start charging and up my game! Cough Cough vivimagicworks.tumblr.com
posted Jul 8, 2011
Mara C.
LAS LOUIS AND ST. VEGAS,
United States
4847 posts
OG since: 12/27/2009
youtube.com/watch?v=E2tMV96xULk
posted Jul 8, 2011
Esikazemese _.
BUDAPEST,
Hungary
384 posts
OG since: 05/03/2009
Now, you got it right!
posted Jul 8, 2011
EGO ..
CAPITAL FEDERAL,
Argentina
126 posts
OG since: 06/23/2010
so trueeeeeeeee! i love how they end up asking you to do something exactly the opossite from the starter design they wanted.
posted Jul 9, 2011
Meta A.
THE PAST,
Indonesia
80 posts
OG since: 08/03/2009
yeah couldn't agree more!
posted Jul 10, 2011
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
Well, first, you can be an artist even if no one has heard of you before, remember that there are really not many rules to follow regarding arts so being famous is not relevant.
I don't see what the "drunk pictures on their bodies" part meant as i personally don't do body painting. I don't know about the other people here though, you may have to ask them.
And both good and bad friends overlook the fact that, like you say, we need materials, time and effort to put into a piece of art so therefore we should be remunerated but as soon as a price is mentioned, they realize that they don't want artwork bad enough to pay for it and it can happen to both good and bad friends like i just mentioned, not everybody has cash on hand. It is not about shitty friends.
And yes, everybody here knew of the hardships of being an artist, but that does not mean that we cannot complain about the lack of propriety out there. If we don't inform the customer, the people, then we won't see chance.
Complaining is only natural, hell, do you mean that if a slave complained about the hardships of being a slave then this person is "bitching" because he/she knew right form the start about slave life being so hard?
Complaining about potential exploitation has nothing to do with being a bitch.
You obviously have never been put in this positionhave you? Do you even know what you're talking about?
posted Jan 12, 2012
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
good plug, but you can put your name out there without making art for free, may i suggest at least copyrighting before putting it online? :P
or putting a small watermark in case users would like to reblog you.
posted Jan 12, 2012
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
btw, love your trolling hahah
posted Jan 12, 2012
Ava S.
EARTH,
United Kingdom
206 posts
Member since: 04/11/2011
Yeah, I get this sometimes with photography.
I know I'm only 15, but I have this particular friend who asked me to take photo's to send to an agency.
I had done a shoot with her before, just for fun. but she suddenly assumed she was my favourite model and I would practically pay HER to shoot. Jeez.
And its not like I'm a particularly amazing photographer, but just because I enjoy it, and spend time editing the photos, that makes people think I'm some arrogant teen who thinks they're the next big photo-thing.
JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A CREATIVE HOBBY. FKU.
posted Jan 13, 2012
Hayley N.
NORTH YORKSHIRE,
United Kingdom
30 posts
OG since: 07/08/2010
Totally agree. I do a lot of portraits and as I want to carry art on at uni and as a career etc. I get people nagging me for portraits and tattoo designs. I'll only do them for my closest friends and they don't have to pay. But someone I've only spoken to once, not if I'm gonna have money. I mean even my mum offered to buy one of Audrey Hepburn off me, so why should people I don't know get it for free.
The most annoying one I've had recently is someone wanted me to design a tat for them, I'd already designed one for free, but they told me exactly what they wanted, so it was like a half hour sketch. But they asked me to design one for the top of there arm, when I asked what they wanted it to be like they're reply was "whatever you think will look good" I don't have time whilst finishing my sixthform studies, applying and going to interviews for uni's, revising like mad, and doing my own artwork and having some time for myself to design a tattoo with no inspiration or basic idea whatsoever! Rant over haha :)
posted Jan 14, 2012
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
Tell her that you do TFP and if she doesn't like it then there's always ModelMayhem :P
posted Mar 21, 2012
Karime L.
EL PASO,
United States
359 posts
OG since: 01/17/2010
The problem is when they tell you "just put whatever you want, you're the creative one!".
So then you show them what you came up with.
And then they want changes on that FREE DESIGN YOU DID ON YOUR SPARE TIME.
posted Mar 21, 2012